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How AI Helps Heal Healthcare Burnout | Naveen Koneru of Healing Breaths | The Brainiac Blueprint Podcast

  • Acy Rodriguez
  • Oct 30
  • 21 min read

Today on The Brainiac Blueprint Podcast by Left Brain AI, we chat with Naveen Koneru, Head of Partnerships at Healing Breaths, about using AI to fight burnout in healthcare.


Healing Breaths, accredited by NYU Langone and Harvard, has supported 15,000+ providers across 50+ institutions. Naveen shares how AI helps streamline research, personalize outreach, and scale well-being programs without losing the human touch.


We cover AI-powered texting, Apple Watch HRV tracking, and how real stories (like a cardiologist-turned-facilitator) are driving change. His belief? AI should empower human connection, not replace it.


If you’re in healthcare, partnerships, or building impact with AI, this one's for you.


Full transcript below.


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⏱ In this episode, we discuss:

 00:00 – Intro

 00:21 – Meet Naveen Koneru & Healing Breaths

 02:00 – Origin of Healing Breaths for Healthcare

 03:37 – Accredited Programs & Institutions

 04:30 – From Burnout to Thriving Well-being

 07:10 – Burnout’s Unspoken Toll on Physicians

 08:12 – How Naveen Defines AI

 10:34 – Using AI for Strategic Prospecting

 12:33 – AI in Market Research & Email Sequences

 15:29 – Integrating Generative AI with SMS

 17:36 – Rethinking Workflows & Automations

 19:18 – Hyper-Personalized Outreach via Text

 22:48 – Embedding Metrics into Custom Proposals

 24:21 – Navigating B2B2C Engagement

 26:26 – Supporting Long-Term Well-being Journeys

 28:21 – Efficiency Metrics for Scaling Impact

 30:42 – Automating Follow-ups to Prioritize Human Conversations

 32:01 – Why Word-of-Mouth Still Wins

 34:30 – Cutting Through Digital Noise Authentically

 35:11 – Case Study: Cardiologist’s HRV Journey with Apple Watch

 38:38 – Harvard & Penn Medicine Collaboration on RCT Study

 41:06 – Future of Preventive AI in Healthcare

 42:39 – Naveen’s Dream AI Tool for A/B Testing Workflows

 44:00 – The Promise (and Limits) of AI + Robotics

 46:27 – Finding Peace in Human Tasks (and Meditation)


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Episode Full Transcript:


Kyle: Hello, everybody. Welcome back to The Brainiac Blueprint. Today's episode is part of our Healthcare Series. We're joined today by Naveen Koneru. Naveen, how are you today?


Naveen: Hi, Kyle. Hi, everybody. I am doing fantastic. Thank you so much for having me on this podcast. I'm very, very excited about this conversation.


Kyle: Of course. Same, same. I'm ready to jump in.


So, Naveen is the Head of Partnerships at Healing Breaths. You can check them out at healingbreaths.org - and on social media, Instagram and Facebook, they are @ArtofLivingHealingBreaths.


So check them out - there’s a lot of great content there. Naveen, why don’t you tell us a little bit about yourself, what the Head of Partnerships does, and a little bit about the organization.


Naveen: Yeah, absolutely, Kyle. Thank you once again. So, let me start with what we do at Healing Breaths and The Art of Living.


The Art of Living Foundation is a worldwide organization and global nonprofit that operates in about 146 countries, with the mission to create a stress-free, violence-free society.


Our founder, Gurudev Sri Sri Ravi Shankar, fondly says his goal is to put a smile on everyone on the planet. I can’t not smile and say that - and he does a really good job of it! We’re obviously very inspired.


Within our foundation, Healing Breaths is a series of programs - or I would really call it an initiative - to help serve healthcare professionals. And it really started about eight years ago, in a room in the Blue Ridge Mountains of North Carolina, where our founder and a few doctors were having a conversation.


He started off saying, “Well, we are serving so many parts of society - are we doing anything to take care of our physicians, our nurses, our providers?”

The answer was a resoundingly silent no - or not yet. And being the dynamic leader that he is, he said, “Well, why don’t we do something for them?”


From there, Dr. Sari Patel and Dr. Sushmita Jasti, based in New York, took that up and got our programs accredited by New York University Langone School of Medicine, American Holistic Nurses Association, and now AGD - American General Dentistry.


We are fully certified programs. So far, we have taken our work to 15,000+ healthcare professionals across the country and to 50+ institutions, including some truly reputable ones like Harvard’s Mass General Hospital, Penn Medicine, Children’s National, and Kaiser Permanente, along with many other incredible institutions.


My role within Healing Breaths is to take our programs to institutions across the country - to be the champion and campaigner for the work that we do.

We believe healthcare professionals are still, fortunately, at the epicenter of advising on the well-being of individuals in the community. The irony, though, Kyle, is that in taking care of others’ well-being, they often do so at the cost of their own well-being.


That’s why there is such a rampant degree of burnout in healthcare. Our mission at Healing Breaths is not only to help with that burnout, but to address well-being in three stages.


First, we help healthcare professionals move from burnout back to their baseline of well-being. From there, we take them to a level of truly thriving in their well-being - and finally, we inspire them to become examples of well-being for their communities and patients.


By doing so, they can pass on the techniques they learn - which is what we bring to the table. We believe well-being is a journey, not just a program, and everyone is at a different point in that journey.


So, Healing Breaths is very intentionally designed to support healthcare professionals at every stage of their well-being journey.


Kyle: It’s such a beautiful mission, and I think it gets overlooked a lot. I think about this from my own standpoint - I’m a marketer, right? By no means a healthcare professional, but I’ve done a lot of marketing for hospitals and healthcare organizations.


And the point you make about burnout and emotional well-being hit really hard for me when I was marketing for a well-known children’s hospital.


Just researching and seeing those cases - seeing those kids - that weighed on me. And that’s just reading about it, let alone working in that environment every day.


I thought, “Man, how do these people get up, especially after the worst-case scenarios, and keep doing what they do?” It takes a certain person to show up every day with a smile and care for others like that.


Naveen: It’s very true. My heart goes out to them. Providers really are what I call part of the triad attacks of human life.


They go through extraordinary training - some of the toughest professional training out there. Physicians, for example, are often in training into their early 30s.

They’re also usually very well placed financially - often in the top 5% of society. And they do all of this because they want to answer a calling to serve humanity. It’s a noble, prosperous, highly skilled path - at the height of their potential.

And yet, at least in the physicians’ arena, their suicide rate is twice that of the general population.


There’s a lot happening there that remains largely unaddressed - and we owe it to them to take care of their well-being.


Kyle: I couldn’t agree more. That’s why I think it’s such a beautiful mission - you’re thinking about them, because they spend so much time thinking about us. That’s great.


Okay, before we dive a little deeper - as you and I spoke - I always like to get a simple prompt, a quick answer from all of our guests.


Because this is an AI podcast related back to healthcare, I’d love for you to finish this sentence: “I think AI is…”


Naveen: I think AI is the most potent and most adaptive assistant for humankind.


Kyle: Interesting. I like that. Do you have anything specific in mind - or why that answer came to you?


Naveen: I think it’s a mix of reasons - and honestly, if I asked AI, it would probably summarize it better for me! That’s an answer in itself.


Kyle: You need a companion for this episode.


Naveen: Exactly right. But really - much of what defines our lives and the value we bring is through thinking.


What AI has done is help leapfrog valuable thinking - by bridging many of the gaps and hoops we usually go through to arrive at something.


For example, yesterday I was researching how to pair four specific plants in my garden - which ones could go together and where to position them.

Normally that would take me an hour or more of research. Instead, it took two questions. I got an answer instantly - no digging, no clicking through search results. It understood exactly what I needed.


And then it went further - asking me the level-two and level-three questions that I probably would’ve asked next but hadn’t thought of yet.


Now, that’s just me having fun with gardening - but in my day-to-day work, it’s even more powerful.


When I’m preparing presentations for decision-makers - C-level executives in a health system - I need a clear blueprint of their organization.


Yes, I could configure my CRM and research tools to pull the data I want, but now I can train an AI agent to map the organization’s structure, their pain points, the latest research, and identify where our program fits - because it understands our value proposition and what we should highlight.


It does all of this faster than I can even digest it. This used to take me 30 minutes - sometimes longer. Now it’s instant.


And it’s everything in between - from my gardening questions to strategic health presentations.


Kyle: You’ve described exactly how I think about AI. So many people give it a negative connotation - thinking of it as human replacement. But when it’s done right, it’s human empowerment.


Instead of spending two hours figuring out how to plant something, you get that answer in minutes - and then you can move on to the important stuff.


That’s empowerment - and that’s the real point of AI.


Naveen: Yeah, I love that. I love how you call it empowerment. Absolutely.


Kyle: Awesome. Let’s jump into AI a bit more. Could you explain - for me and for our audience - how you use it day to day in your role at Healing Breaths?

What tools are you using? Have you automated any workflows? What does your setup look like right now?


Naveen: That’s a great question - and probably a loaded one. I think we’re still in the very early stages of AI adoption.


At Healing Breaths, we’re approaching it at three levels. First, how I personally use it. Then, how we use it operationally. And third, how we can empower the organization by integrating AI into tools and processes we already use.

At the strategic level, I use it for market analysis, prospect research, and comparing tools we might adopt or experiment with.


I also use it to map out processes and get real-time feedback - whether it’s a microprocess or a major strategic initiative we’re planning.


And also, I want to say forecasting roadblocks, which has actually been a huge way to be able to adopt AI. I use it in a very conversational way.


Kyle: Yeah.


Naveen: I'm laughing because I actually treat AI very respectfully in my conversations.


Kyle: A lot of praise and thank-yous in there.


Naveen: Yes, indeed. And it actually does a great job at doing it right back at me. I love those conversations and that tonality. Part of it is probably also adapting large language models to my set of conversations - and I believe in that.

So I think that's at the strategic level.


At a process level, what we're noticing - and I can go into so many different segments - is my adoption from a strategic sales and partnership standpoint.

The other part being at an operational level in sales: for example, if we have to draft scripts that we need to put together - let’s say we’re doing a 15-segment email sequence - in the past, we’d spend a couple of days and countless iterations creating those sequences.


Now it’s a matter of a few minutes to get the first draft out, and it aligns with our brand tone, the conversation we’d like to have, and the proper sequence length.

That’s at the email level. But now, what we’re trying to do is take that further down the customer journey.


What we’ve noticed is that our audience in healthcare - their primary mode of communication, especially with external parties - is actually text messages.

So then comes the question: how can we create those micro-conversations over text to help improve customer engagement and the overall journey?


And how can we marry generative AI with text messaging services?

We’re in the very early stages of that. By no means do I claim mastery over it. Twilio, chatGPT- those are some of the things we’re looking at. GoHighLevel (GHL) and generative AI tools are another set we’re experimenting with.

We’re still early, but we think this will help create authentic, transparent exchanges - where users know they’re talking to an agent but can easily connect with a human who can continue the conversation.


That’s at the operational level.


We also use Apollo, HubSpot, obviously ChatGPT, and we’re creating custom bots aligned with our mission and brand tone.


We use tools like Qwilr, and of course Canva, which has a lot of AI built in. I’m sure there’s a whole bunch of other tools my team uses that I’m not even mentioning right now.


And the other aspect is processes - the third part I mentioned earlier.

When it comes to processes, the hardest part, Kyle, with any kind of human leapfrogging we take is really our own mindset - rethinking how we do the same job in an entirely different way.


It’s about being open-minded and saying, “I don’t know if there’s a better way to do this, but let me explore. What are the tools out there to help me do it better?”

And that’s phenomenal - because once you start figuring it out, it opens up so many other options.


Kyle: One hundred percent. I think you and I are in a very similar mode when it comes to our work - always trying to get more for less and save time on repetitive tasks.


So many times I’ve been doing something, gone to ChatGPT or N8N, and tried to build out a workflow - and it’s like, What are you doing? Do it this way.

And it’s so much better. The light bulbs go off, and you realize there’s a completely better way to do it.


Naveen: Yeah, absolutely. And recently, talking about agentic AI is something I’ve been delving into.


For AI to be able to figure out workflows - to actually present, experiment, and A/B test them - I’m really excited about that prospect.


Kyle: That’s great. I think that’s a perfect segue into the next topic I wanted to bring up, which is hyper-personalization.


You talked about your target audience - they respond more to SMS and text - and you’re trying to A/B test the messaging a bit.


Without giving away your secret sauce, I’m curious about your approach - what you’re testing, how you’re learning quickly, how you gauge success, and how you’re getting those texts out there efficiently.


Naveen: I have to be very honest - I’m in the early stages of testing. And my team sometimes says I’m a little ambitious about it.


But what we really want to create - what we’ve noticed about human engagement - is the short attention span that people have.


A simple example: when we show up at events with healthcare professionals, we’re not the only ones there as sponsors or collaborators. Healthcare professionals are excited to learn about our mission and our service to them.

And coming from the nonprofit world, there’s a natural affinity with many health systems, since many of them are nonprofits too.


But in their very busy day, for them to remember who we are - and for us to capture that connection - even a single remark in conversation can be crucial.

So if an agent could listen in, that would be ideal.


Now, imagine instead of filling out a form, they scan a QR code and shoot us a quick text.


If we can immediately respond to that text - and follow up soon after with a personal remark captured from our conversation - that makes the engagement hyper-personal.


Kyle: That’s great.


Naveen: That’s just one simple example, but I think we can expand on it.

For instance, I know we kicked TL;DV out of this conversation, but I love TL;DV.

We could potentially take meeting scripts from tools like TL;DV and use them to personalize proposals or follow-up emails - not just in templates, but in how we reference specific moments or metrics from conversations.


A remarkable use of AI could be in taking those recordings, identifying one or two key metrics, and embedding those directly into proposals - creating customized business documents that show specific ROI.


That level of personalization could be a game-changer.


Kyle: You make a great point. Whether it’s a healthcare professional or the average Joe, we’re all bombarded with - what’s the stat? - something like 20,000 pieces of content a day.


Our filters are sharp. We instantly know what’s relevant and what’s not.

So if someone gets a message that uses their own language or the exact metric they care about, that’s what stands out - especially if it’s automated. That’s perfect.


If you get that figured out, let me know.


Naveen: I think we’re a few steps away - but who knows, there’s probably a company already doing it somewhere, a bunch of engineers in a garage.


Kyle: I’m sure there is.


I’m curious - when we first connected, I think you mentioned there’s a B2B2C component to this as well.


Does that make things more complicated - having two markets or audiences to communicate with?


Naveen: Yeah, it’s interesting. A lot of our B2B work actually comes through our B2C programs.


We have open programs for all healthcare providers and professionals.

When they attend, we ask if they think it would be useful for their colleagues - and 9 out of 10 say yes.


We have a professional, neatly structured process where they can make introductions, and that’s how we often enter new institutions.


Once we move into the B2B arena, the big challenge becomes bandwidth.

Healthcare professionals - as much as they’d like to - are dealing with far more than 20,000 pieces of content a day. They have countless signals to respond to in providing care.


So within that B2B environment, the challenge becomes: how can we serve and support our target audience?


That’s what makes it inevitably B2B2C. The big challenge is creating positive engagement.


Generating interest is easy - but moving from interest to engagement, with their limited bandwidth, is the hardest part.


Once they engage in a program, the next challenge is sustaining that engagement - moving them through each stage of the well-being journey.

Someone might join a 15-minute “breather” session, then want to attend our next one-hour Be Well series. But then they get paged, and can’t make it.


So how do we keep track of those participants - people who genuinely want to prioritize well-being but are fighting for minutes in their day?


How can we partner with them, personalize support, and keep them on track?

It’s about staying in touch, communicating, inspiring, and being the support rails in their own well-being journey - helping them stay at their best and rewarding them for taking care of themselves.


Kyle: That “self-reward” and inspiration piece is really interesting - and important.

When you’re dealing with burnout, the last thing you want to do is another task. It’s easy to say, “I’ll do it next time,” or “I’m too tired.”


So there has to be some kind of pleasure or reward built into it - something that makes them feel, It’s worth my time. Even if they’re exhausted, they think, “Okay, let me give this 30 minutes and see what’s going on.”

That’s a fascinating challenge.


Naveen: Exactly.


Kyle: You mentioned bandwidth - everyone wants to get more done. So I want to pivot a bit to operational efficiency and scalability.


I know you have a small but mighty team, doing amazing work. For you and your organization, what does efficiency and scalability really look like?


Naveen: If I have to boil it down, it probably comes to three specific metrics.

Number one is efficiency - how many institutions we’re able to bring our programs into.


Number two - how many people within those institutions become part of the well-being journey. That’s essentially how we measure impact.


And number three - how much of my time is spent in human conversations while AI handles everything else, like automations and follow-ups.

That last metric actually fuels the other two.


Of course, to get there, we first need to configure our systems - set up the automations, workflows, and follow-ups.


And Kyle, the rate at which these systems evolve - it’s incredible. Tools I used a year ago can already feel outdated.


So our approach is to stay open-minded and experimental in how we improve efficiency.


We don’t see efficiency as a fixed point - it’s a moving target we keep chasing.

If I can reach a point where 30% of my time is spent doing follow-ups - and 70% in real human conversations - that’s ideal.


Kyle: That’s a great place to aspire to be. Absolutely. 


Naveen: And it’s all measurable - meetings on the calendar, right?


Kyle: Absolutely. I’m curious - you mentioned 15,000 healthcare professionals and 50+ organizations.


From an outsider’s perspective, those are big numbers. Was there a scalability project or process that led to that success early on?


And was there a breaking point where you realized, “Okay, now we need a new tool or process”?


Naveen: Actually, the answer to that is very non-AI, interestingly.

And the reason I say that is because of the mission we’re on - and maybe that’s true for a lot of the human work we do in general.


I think what we really care for and what really matters to us is what other humans are feeling and how other humans are solving the problems that we’re going through.


I think the greatest scaling actually happened when healthcare professionals out there - physicians, nurses, therapists, MAs, people in the insurance world, administrators, leaders - when they heard stories of other providers going through these same experiences.


And they were inspired, saying, “Well, here’s a problem. I’ve been living my life this way for 20 or 30 years or even more. There’s a story here. I guess if I have to try breathing with Healing Breaths, why not? I’ll give it a shot.”


How we arrive at that level of scaling and reach for those conversations is through a whole toolkit we use. I’m talking about using Apollo, HubSpot, OpenPhone, ChatGPT, and you name it. My marketing team probably uses another 5 to 10 tools - and we’ve probably retired another 50 already through experimentation.

But I think what catches fire is conversation, and conversation catches inspiration.That’s really where we are. 


Kyle: You know, it’s funny - in this super digital world where we’re talking about robots and driverless cars and things like that, it’s still that human-to-human interaction that really leads to revelation, excitement, or new ideas.


It always comes back to human empowerment - that eye-to-eye moment. And it’s even more true today. Word of mouth and referrals will always be the greatest way to reach people.


Naveen:  Even more now than ever.


Kyle: Yeah, it’s so funny to think about that.

Okay, great. This has been awesome.


Naveen: I do want to make a point in there. I think what that also means is - how do we cut through the noise, both for ourselves and for the people we want to serve?


I think using the tools not to create noise, but to help cut through the noise, is something people really care about.


Kyle: Authenticity will always win out.


Naveen: Absolutely.


Kyle: That’s awesome. Cool. So I wanted to pivot to one other high-level topic.

When you and I originally connected, this was something on my mind - and you brought up a couple of cool stories, one about Penn and one about Harvard. I wanted to jump into wearables.


If you could, talk about how you approach or think about wearables - anything that Healing Breaths might be sharing - and maybe share one or two of those stories.


Naveen: Yeah, absolutely. This is a really great story about a very well-respected cardiologist at Penn Medicine.


She told me about how she tried our program. She mentioned that she’s used to wearing an Apple Watch, which measures signals like HRV.


This was during the pandemic era, and she used to get a signal that said “Breathe.” As things got worse - busier, more intense at the hospital - she noticed she was getting that signal five times a day.


She talked about how it was very evident - the workload, the challenges the teams were facing. They’re a phenomenal group of people, extraordinary culture. I’ve visited them - truly extraordinary human beings.


But the workload got much tougher during the pandemic. It affected her health, obviously - and we’re all human.


Interestingly, her mother sent her some information about Art of Living programs and said, “Maybe this is something you should give a genuine shot.”


So she did - she joined the Healing Breaths program. Within just a few days, almost immediately, her notifications started dropping from five a day to one, and then eventually disappeared.


I thought that was a phenomenal story. She’s an extraordinary leader. She was so inspired that within a year, she went on to become a facilitator and instructor herself - completing the entire well-being journey to teach others.

Within a few months, she brought the programs to Penn Medicine, reaching hundreds of people within her hospital.


Beyond that, she was so inspired by well-being that she went on to complete the country’s foremost Chief Wellness Officer training at Stanford University, led by Dr. Tait Shanafelt.


Now, as we speak, she’s doing a research collaboration with Harvard and Penn Medicine - studying the impact of Healing Breaths programs, SKY and Sahaj, on physicians.


It’s a large, randomized, controlled trial - a landmark study in the making. We’re very excited about what’s to come.


The team at Penn Medicine is phenomenal, and the Harvard researchers have been extraordinary.


A big part of what they’re using in the study are wearables - to measure HRV and a bunch of other significant metrics continuously, drawing 24/7 data to understand the impact of the techniques we teach.


Kyle: That’s great stuff. Isn’t it funny - it doesn’t matter how old we are or what our job is - Mom still knows best.


This doctor, so highly trained, and it was her mom who came to help out!

But seriously, that’s such a cool story. To see those alerts go from five down to one - that has to be so alarming at first, then incredibly reassuring to see it improve.

And for her to then become an ambassador for the program - that’s amazing. I love hearing that kind of story.


Naveen: Yeah, absolutely.


Kyle: Awesome. So I have two quick, snap questions for you, Naveen.

What do you think the right AI future looks like for healthcare?


Naveen: If we play it right  there’s a lot of caveats in there. I think if we do this well, we could create a very healthy world within healthcare - where we truly build a system that values and enables our own well-being.


That’s a huge opportunity: healthcare providers not just treating disease, but being shining examples of their own well-being - and bringing that into their communities and societies.


Imagine seeing a doctor not because you’re sick, but to learn how to thrive in your well-being. I think AI can help us get there.


Kyle: That’s interesting - that almost sounds like the next level of preventative care.


Naveen: Oh, absolutely. I think we should prevent ourselves from being anything less than thriving.


Kyle: I love that. That’s a great answer.


Awesome. Last question - and I think you might’ve touched on this already, but I’ll ask anyway:


If you could snap your fingers and have any AI solution or automated workflow instantly in place and working perfectly - what would it be?


Naveen: I understand it would be a lot, but maybe something that could self-integrate with all the other AI solutions I use, A/B test different combinations, and then report back multiple times a day on how those configurations are performing.


Kyle: Basically, a system that could handle ideation, reporting, and optimization - all in one flow. That would be great. 


Naveen: Yeah. Snap of a finger.


Kyle: Amazing. Well, Naveen, that was everything. I think this was a great conversation. I loved all of your insights.


Open forum - is there any passion or topic you want to share that we didn’t touch on yet?


Naveen: I think another passion area for me - now that I’ve delved into it - is the integration of AI into robotics.


I keep wondering where all of this will go. A simple example - I think this was a mic-drop, network-breaking post - someone wrote, “I want AI to do my laundry and my dishwashing so I can do the writing and painting.”


Kyle: I love that so much. I was thinking about that this weekend while mowing my lawn - like, where’s my robot at right now?


Naveen: Exactly, exactly.

And I also want to be careful saying that, because some of the greatest epiphanies actually happen while doing those simple things. Cleaning can be very therapeutic.


It’s while doing dishes or mowing the lawn that we zone out and have incredible moments of realization.


Einstein, in his early days, apparently had a very boring job where he had so much time to ruminate - and that led to many of his great ideas.


So I wonder, if robots do all that for us, will we lose those moments of epiphany?

On the other hand, maybe it will be great - instead of spending a couple of hours creating a nice environment for ourselves, a robot could do it in an amicable, human-like way.


And maybe we’d still say, “You know what, I’ll take care of the dishes today - it would be nice to do that.”


I don’t think we’re far from that reality. But it’s important to remember - it will create major shifts in society.


What does that mean for the humans currently in those roles? How do we empower them for the next level of work?


This isn’t new - every cycle of innovation has caused a shift. It happened with mechanization in agriculture, with industrialization, with computers, with the internet.


So this is just another step in human evolution. The same questions - and probably the same answers - remain: roles will shift, and new forms of value will emerge.


Kyle: Exactly. You make a great point.


On one hand, I look forward to driverless cars - it’ll reduce traffic and make travel safer. But on the other hand, I enjoy long drives - that peaceful time where you’re not doing anything else.


So there’s definitely a balance. You solve one issue, another appears - and you solve that too. It’s a never-ending cycle.


Naveen: Yeah. I think that’s the nature of the human mind - which is why it’s so important to meditate every day.


Kyle: One hundred percent. I’m a big advocate of transcendental meditation. I’ve been doing it - it’s great. Absolutely.


Naveen: Yeah, a lot of the work we do in Healing Breaths focuses on that as well.


Kyle: Awesome. That’s great to know, Naveen.


Well, this has been amazing. Thank you so much for joining.

Again, you can check out Healing Breaths at healingbreaths.org, or @ArtofLivingHealingBreaths on Facebook and Instagram.


You can find Naveen Koneru on LinkedIn, and I’m sure you’re active on the socials or website as well.


Thank you - this has been great. I’ve really enjoyed our conversation.


Naveen: Thank you, Kyle. It’s been a pleasure.


Kyle: And to all you Brainiacs out there - stay brilliant.




 
 
 

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